Comments on: Is “R.I.P.” Ammunition Creating Trouble in Chicago? https://gunculture2point0.com/2018/03/06/is-r-i-p-ammunition-creating-trouble-in-chicago/ Thu, 08 Mar 2018 13:27:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: A Final Word About R.I.P. Ammo | Gun Culture 2.0 https://gunculture2point0.com/2018/03/06/is-r-i-p-ammunition-creating-trouble-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-7012 Thu, 08 Mar 2018 13:27:29 +0000 http://gunculture2point0.wordpress.com/?p=5974#comment-7012 […] the same time I was thinking about the alleged appearance of R.I.P. ammo in homicides in Chicago, I also saw […]

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By: Lethal Weaponry, Lethal Intent, and Homicide in Chicago | Gun Culture 2.0 https://gunculture2point0.com/2018/03/06/is-r-i-p-ammunition-creating-trouble-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-7006 Wed, 07 Mar 2018 16:47:19 +0000 http://gunculture2point0.wordpress.com/?p=5974#comment-7006 […] up on my post about the (alleged) use of “R.I.P.” ammo in Chicago, I wanted to investigate further some claims made by the medical examiner (and many others, in […]

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By: zaarin7 https://gunculture2point0.com/2018/03/06/is-r-i-p-ammunition-creating-trouble-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-7005 Wed, 07 Mar 2018 13:43:24 +0000 http://gunculture2point0.wordpress.com/?p=5974#comment-7005 I can already hear the thundering heard of the left in Chicago heading to the keyboards and microphones calling for this to be banned. I use Hornady Critical Defense and it will fragment as well. However it would be another case of looking at cosmetics rather than facts.

I did a search and got back this page of images. Looks like all they did was cut down to the mouth of the case.

https://www.google.com/search?q=RIP+bullets&client=firefox-b-1-ab&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi7vP2aq9rZAhVI8GMKHQHpCOsQsAQIKA&biw=1696&bih=966

Molon Labe!
Keep your powder dry and your faith in God.

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By: Sherman A. House DDS https://gunculture2point0.com/2018/03/06/is-r-i-p-ammunition-creating-trouble-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-7004 Tue, 06 Mar 2018 17:46:47 +0000 http://gunculture2point0.wordpress.com/?p=5974#comment-7004 In reply to khal spencer.

As I am sure David can attest, there is very little information out there on these topical issues or areas of interests, aside from that provided by people who are, “professional hobbyists,” like Greg Ellifritz:

http://www.activeresponsetraining.net/criminals-and-the-guns-they-carry

This is a, “slice,” or quasi-representative example of what one would find in an Ohio suburb. If I did the same in the property room in the rural county in which I patrol, I think the results would be similar.

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 11:41 AM, Gun Culture 2.0 wrote:

> khal spencer commented: “That said, it worries me that these sorts of > advertisements might energize those who are not the firearms community’s > friends.” >

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By: khal spencer https://gunculture2point0.com/2018/03/06/is-r-i-p-ammunition-creating-trouble-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-7003 Tue, 06 Mar 2018 17:41:23 +0000 http://gunculture2point0.wordpress.com/?p=5974#comment-7003 In reply to khal spencer.

That said, it worries me that these sorts of advertisements might energize those who are not the firearms community’s friends.

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By: khal spencer https://gunculture2point0.com/2018/03/06/is-r-i-p-ammunition-creating-trouble-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-7002 Tue, 06 Mar 2018 17:40:38 +0000 http://gunculture2point0.wordpress.com/?p=5974#comment-7002 What kind of ammo is our average Low-Life using, anyway? Is anyone studying this and compiling data? FMJ is cheap and I doubt many of the criminal element are connoisseurs of fine ammo. But what do I know.

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By: Sherman A. House DDS https://gunculture2point0.com/2018/03/06/is-r-i-p-ammunition-creating-trouble-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-7001 Tue, 06 Mar 2018 15:51:51 +0000 http://gunculture2point0.wordpress.com/?p=5974#comment-7001 In reply to David Yamane.

Years back David, the Glaser Safety Slug and the Magsafe rounds were fairly popular and advocated by some mainstream trainers, like Mas Ayoob. Those were also high cost per round…

I’d imagine most shootings involving boutique ammunition aren’t, “intentional,” meaning the gun and ammo combination was the result of a burglary, robbery or theft, and that’s what happened to be loaded in the gun. I don’t think that there are many professional hoodlums buying it, or seeking it out. But that’s purely speculative on my part.

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 7:55 AM, Gun Culture 2.0 wrote:

> David Yamane commented: “I would be shocked if it was (m)any. It is not > common or cheap ammunition. Are there other fragmenting bullets out there? > I don’t know but they would also seem uncommon.” >

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By: David Yamane https://gunculture2point0.com/2018/03/06/is-r-i-p-ammunition-creating-trouble-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-7000 Tue, 06 Mar 2018 15:40:51 +0000 http://gunculture2point0.wordpress.com/?p=5974#comment-7000 In reply to Dan P..

My friend who had the ammo loaded up his gun with it.

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By: David Yamane https://gunculture2point0.com/2018/03/06/is-r-i-p-ammunition-creating-trouble-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-6998 Tue, 06 Mar 2018 13:55:36 +0000 http://gunculture2point0.wordpress.com/?p=5974#comment-6998 In reply to Dr. Sherman August House.

I would be shocked if it was (m)any. It is not common or cheap ammunition. Are there other fragmenting bullets out there? I don’t know but they would also seem uncommon.

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By: Dr. Sherman August House https://gunculture2point0.com/2018/03/06/is-r-i-p-ammunition-creating-trouble-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-6997 Tue, 06 Mar 2018 13:42:37 +0000 http://gunculture2point0.wordpress.com/?p=5974#comment-6997 I’d be interested in looking closer at those cases. From the point of the bullets being loaded into the magazine to the shooting, to the post mortem. And I definitely want to see what, “little paper clips,” look like on the x-ray, and hear how many of these wounds can be positively attributed to that projectile.

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