Comments on: Call for Papers on “Firearm Markets, Marketing, and Society” https://gunculture2point0.com/2022/08/11/call-for-papers-on-firearm-markets-marketing-and-society/ Thu, 22 Sep 2022 18:41:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Matt https://gunculture2point0.com/2022/08/11/call-for-papers-on-firearm-markets-marketing-and-society/comment-page-1/#comment-30593 Thu, 22 Sep 2022 18:41:22 +0000 http://guncurious.wpcomstaging.com/?p=3055#comment-30593 In reply to David Yamane.

I had the chance last week to chat at length with my friend in the gun room. He shared many interesting (to me, at least) details on distribution, order placing, his thought process for estimating demand before ordering, etc. It largely confirmed my hunch about advertising & marketing being focused more on distribution channels than the end consumer. My friend would be eager to speak with you, if you ever have specific questions or want to learn more in general about his end of the business.

I also took photos of several point-of-purchase displays (a specialty of mine back in the day), and can share them if you are interested.

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By: David Yamane https://gunculture2point0.com/2022/08/11/call-for-papers-on-firearm-markets-marketing-and-society/comment-page-1/#comment-30592 Thu, 22 Sep 2022 14:59:17 +0000 http://guncurious.wpcomstaging.com/?p=3055#comment-30592 In reply to Matt.

I have not been able to find any connection between Bushmaster and mass killers. https://gunculture2point0.wordpress.com/2022/02/16/bushmaster-is-the-worst-marketer-in-the-history-of-guns-punto-final/

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By: David Yamane https://gunculture2point0.com/2022/08/11/call-for-papers-on-firearm-markets-marketing-and-society/comment-page-1/#comment-30591 Thu, 22 Sep 2022 14:57:06 +0000 http://guncurious.wpcomstaging.com/?p=3055#comment-30591 In reply to Matt.

Belatedly, this is a good point about who the “target” of gun magazine ads are. We think of consumers but it may well be the middle-men.

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By: Matt https://gunculture2point0.com/2022/08/11/call-for-papers-on-firearm-markets-marketing-and-society/comment-page-1/#comment-30590 Fri, 09 Sep 2022 21:06:37 +0000 http://guncurious.wpcomstaging.com/?p=3055#comment-30590 In reply to David Yamane.

The Rossi Gallery gun and Walther P22 also recently fit this pattern. Both were recommended to friends by a clerk. I won’t belabor the point by adding any more that will surely come to mind. (BTW, pass on the P22.)

Another method to drive sales is the release of limited edition versions of firearms through exclusive dealers — Talos, Bud’s, et al. Some regional advertising might occur, and always an arrangement to have the product featured in the dealer’s advertising, sales flyers, etc.

Kimber is advertising a lot, highlighting their compliance with the CA roster, and seemingly to the individual customer. But Kimber is a mess, and advertising is often resorted to as a panacea. Daniels Defense also relies heavily on advertising. They are high-end, high-profit margin, dependent on establishing a cachet.

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By: Matt https://gunculture2point0.com/2022/08/11/call-for-papers-on-firearm-markets-marketing-and-society/comment-page-1/#comment-30589 Fri, 09 Sep 2022 20:07:59 +0000 http://guncurious.wpcomstaging.com/?p=3055#comment-30589 In reply to David Yamane.

Further thoughts: I think gun buyers typically window shop without a specific make & model in mind. So the clerk at the gun shop has a lot of influence. Most gun culture magazines double as trade publications, so advertising new products in them, highlighting not just features but also the image/messaging/vibe, may be directed more at the vendor than the end buyer.

I’ve noticed that ads for a particular gun, ostensibly independent video & print reviews of it, and its sudden appearance in every local gun shop and box chain, all happen in quick succession. I recall this pattern for, inter alia, the Heritage Barkeep, Ruger Wranger, Beretta Tomcat, Mossberg Shockwave, Mossberg MC pistol, Beretta 92A3 (last two not CA compliant, so no in-store availability to observe.)

I have friends who work behind the counter in a gun room; I’ll ask them about this when I next get the chance.

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By: Matt https://gunculture2point0.com/2022/08/11/call-for-papers-on-firearm-markets-marketing-and-society/comment-page-1/#comment-30588 Fri, 09 Sep 2022 16:35:10 +0000 http://guncurious.wpcomstaging.com/?p=3055#comment-30588 In reply to David Yamane.

I was taught that ‘advertising is a great way to spend money.’ There’s a scene in Mad Men, where Don Draper is escorting a newly-signed client out the lobby. The client asks, “So this will boost our sales?” Draper slaps him on the shoulder and laughs, “I have no idea!”

There are no good ways to measure the effect of advertising. Too many confounding factors, for starters. One can conduct an ‘A/B’ split, where two different ads or coupons are run in different markets (or publications), to see which is relatively more effective.

Advertising isn’t useless, especially for establishing brand recognition, but other marketing tools are generally more cost-effective. For the gun industry, an ad in Soldier of Fortune might pay for itself, but a booth at ShotShow will have broader & more lasting impact. Relations with dealers & big sporting goods chains are critical in a market like this. ‘Advertorials’ are also common: buy ad space, get an article or review in return — often written by you! Ever notice how every gun reviewed in Shooting Illustrated is flawless & wonderful? Video reviews are surely important nowadays, so handing out product to vloggers is a better use of budget than a print ad.

Has there been any confirmed connection to that ill-considered Bushmaster campaign and any mass killers?

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By: David Yamane https://gunculture2point0.com/2022/08/11/call-for-papers-on-firearm-markets-marketing-and-society/comment-page-1/#comment-30587 Wed, 07 Sep 2022 14:27:18 +0000 http://guncurious.wpcomstaging.com/?p=3055#comment-30587 In reply to Matt.

Although I have content analyzed gun ads, I am definitely not a specialist in marketing, though I do wonder how marketing departments and advertising agencies measure their effectiveness. E.g., the Bushmaster “Man Card” campaign failed miserably in encouraging disaffected young men to engage in mass shootings, but did it work in getting more people to buy Bushmaster ARs? It seems determining this could be difficult, and certainly asking people what influenced their purchases might be problematic insofar as we may not know everything that influences our consumption behavior. Sounds like you’re better placed to understand this than I am!

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By: Eric https://gunculture2point0.com/2022/08/11/call-for-papers-on-firearm-markets-marketing-and-society/comment-page-1/#comment-30586 Sat, 27 Aug 2022 15:11:30 +0000 http://guncurious.wpcomstaging.com/?p=3055#comment-30586 Reblogged this on Calculus of Decay .

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By: Matt https://gunculture2point0.com/2022/08/11/call-for-papers-on-firearm-markets-marketing-and-society/comment-page-1/#comment-30585 Mon, 15 Aug 2022 01:17:40 +0000 http://guncurious.wpcomstaging.com/?p=3055#comment-30585 I can honestly say that not one of my firearms purchases has been influenced in the slightest by advertising.

As a former marketing & promotion exec, I’m surprised the list of topic suggestions did not include target audience, or whether the objective of advertising is to create a desire to purchase, or merely influence make & model choice.

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